George Wang (https://dieworkwear.com/2018/09/06/the-sophisticated-black-tassel/) that black loafers work better with jeans than brown ones? I cant put my finger on exactly what makes these distinctly less formal than the Aldens, but theyre also one of Vibergs most formal offerings. Cordovan takes its name from the city of Crdoba, Spain, where the production of cordovan leather was first practiced by the Visigoths in the seventh century. Would you not wear that with these jeans /similarly narrow trousers? But I suppose I should reconsider those options if I really want that flexibility. But then, if this works it seems silly to try something else. Simon, curious to know if you have any thoughts on the last post re: quality of cordovan sourced by makers. Las mejores ofertas para Viberg Dark Cognac Shell Crdoba 2030 Stitchdown Bota de Servicio Brogue Puntera de Gorra estn en eBay Compara precios y caractersticas de productos nuevos y usados Muchos artculos con envo gratis! How would you compare Alden & Edward Greens Greenwich in Cordovan burgundy? I do like the fact that its all eyelets and I like that in my boots. A5 Cognac Brown WANCHER Wancher Leather A5 Compact Notebook Case Review My Favorite A5 Leather Journal Covers CUSTOM BOGART FEDORA | 50X BEAVER BLEND | COGNAC COLOR Chicago #5 in Marbled Dark Cognac Horween Shell Cordovan leather Sojourner Coal \u0026 Ember Unboxing | 2 New Folios - A5 and . You can change your preferences any time in your Privacy Settings. I also noticed that the lining leather wore out very quickly. Brian. We also get your email address to automatically create an account for you in our website. (15% off), Keep collections to yourself or inspire other shoppers! Alden Cigar Shell Cordovan Wallet. Add to Wishlist + Quick View. To start with, both use Horweem cordovan. These intricate, centuries-old construction details further close the gap between high-end casual sneakers and traditional, Goodyear Welted Northampton dress shoes. I have been pleased with the boots, yes. Find out more in our Cookies & Similar Technologies Policy. I suspect not, but I am trying to ascertain whether I would be loosing alot by choosing cordovan rather than suede, or whether its best to stick with suede for this essential item. The understated look and outstanding durability of the shoes have made them a favorite of traditional menswear retailers in the U.S. for years. Hi Simon, do you have any recommendations as to where I would be able to get my hands on low vamp alden loafers in the UK? Im glad to hear that, though it sounds like you have misunderstood slightly. I purchased a pair of Alden shell loafers that are just a tiny bit tight. Chili is the same color as Garnet. Original Price 177.63 Your Aldens might look great with suits. Its not an Alden thing, by the way - its the same with my Edward Green black cordovan (shown below). Shinki Hikaku Shell Cordovan leather comes from Kobe, Japan. Whether its more casual than cordovan, well the material alone is probably more casual, but cordovan tends to be made into more casual shoes. You mention here, Simon, that you can remove certain scratches by brushing and buffing. Quite possibly an accidental darker shade of Cognac Cordovan. I also have Kirby Allisons cordovan care kit (complete with deer bone) which comes in handy to smooth the ripples a bit. Original Price USD 140.00 Not trying to be a snob! Simon Crompton Permanent Style is the UK authority on classic and luxury menswear. As to belt, I wear a dark-brown leather most of the time, or even a black if its a smarter shoe/look. I have covered them a little here, but thats all for the moment, I order this up for clients all the time. Shell Cordovan. As always, versatility is paramount. Alden is certainly better, from what Ive seen, but its hard to put a number on how much. Thats the most important time. like Weston. See below for style specific care products. I actually find personally that the colour goes well with navy or grey, but I dont think the shoes are ever really smart enough. I highly recommend the Alden restoration service. It is the oiled, worn-in look of cordovan that makes them work. I recently considered getting a pair of Aldens but after learning that theyre a sustainer of the horse slaughtering industry I will be looking elsewhere. Would love to see an article on types of shoe leathers (wallets, belts, etc.). Next time youre in NY it might be worth the 2 hour flight to Atlanta to visit Sid Mashburns flagship store here. They were nice and Id always wanted a pair but like most things, the wanting was better than the having. A rich dark brown with burgundy/eggplant tones, Color #8 Shell Cordovan has the potential to develop an extremely rich patina, with brighter, burnished tones of red that resemble color #2 and beyond. In the US, at least, and speaking solely about each companys cordovan offer, their pricing is very similar. Its a community thing, Hi Simon, Send me exclusive offers, unique gift ideas, and personalized tips for shopping and selling on Etsy. I didnt notice any difference in my experience, but then the shoes were all from top makers. 3+ cards per pocket. Thank you. A small amount of cream every few weeks can help soften the leather, and feed it, but dont use too much or youll get white marks in the creases. Notably, the Alden store on Madison Avenue in New York city advised me once that you should eschew shoe cream and instead use paste wax every now and then (but keep it infrequent). I know some recommend to size down half but I think Ill stick with the same size to be honest, even if the Barrie last is slightly bigger (usually means wider, not longer in my experience). Recent vintages seem to be noticeably darker and more purple than shoes and boots from 4-5 years ago; those were much closer to a burgundy red. Goodyear Welted using our ultraflex System on the comfortable ROD last using vegetable tanned leather insoles & full grain vegetable tanned calf leather lining from the French Tanneries Du Puy. Color #4, a very reddish brown. I like the style generally (sort of a dressed-up Doc Martin for the urban professional), and I assume you wear them with denim, which is a nice look (although I think the images above are actually from an article you did on similar Kaan shoes, correct?). You've already signed up for some newsletters, but you haven't confirmed your address. Thanks Adam. Not pretty. . (Worn w/ nice jeans/slacks/sports jacket.) Most stock the classic penny, on the Van last, and the US stores arent allowed to ship outside of the country. Im in an Alden group on FB with them and their customer service seems great though Ive yet to buy from them. There is space behind the key hardware for cards or folded bills. I would sincerely appreciate your guidance as I am currently deciding which way to go for a pair of cordovan tassel loafers. Rubbing it vigorously has a similar effect, and produces more of a shine. Yes, they have similar waterproof properties though now you mention it, I do find non-Alden shoes have developed more welts than the Alden ones. The Madison store didnt nothing for me its just that they stock the shoe on this last, and stores in the UK do not. When you said you wear 8.5E on EG all lasts, I presume you refer to just loafers such as 184 last or including oxford and derby lasts say 202 or 606 last? Both. Mine are still a good fit, though Im tempted to go a half size up sometime merely because I like the extra room in fit more generally, as discussed in the piece about Anatomica. Interesting albeit a little farfetched that you need deer bone for this because it is oily thank you for pointing me towards this article I will give it a try! As it isnt a skin, it doesnt have a top layer, and so can look almost shadowy, with colours floating beneath the surface. Im not sure how it works out with cordovan, but its rare that leather like this can sustain farming of animals on its own. Trumps protectionism was focused on imposing and raising tariffs. Each shell is oval in shape and made from a specific part of a horsehide. You need heat and pressure to do that, and the fat helps. Thanks Simon. Turning off personalized advertising opts you out of these sales. Learn more in our Privacy Policy., Help Center, and Cookies & Similar Technologies Policy. Absolutely agree Color 8 is very versatile and you can never truly find a calf to match that color (though I have tried). Original Price USD 82.00 The regular penny is widely stocked, at Trunk and Clutch for example. I guess my point is: I am happy to pay for calf or suede EG principally because the leathers they use are at the absolute top of the industry (as is their make for GYW shoes) and there is an -in my experience- noticeable difference in how the leather wears from day one and especially how it ages. It doesnt sound like you need much help from me Chris. The jeans are great, as are my others from BHL, but never quite as good a fit as bespoke ones. (20% off), Sale Price USD 140.25 It would be hard to go wrong with a work boot with jeans Amit. Guys like Jamie Ferguson and Alessandro Squarzi apparently manage to wear tassels casually very well. That occurs on my Alden cordovan monks, even though I dont use anything on them. The guy knows where to find everything all over the world. This is not intended to be a dressy shoe, so the brass eyelets fitted well. Take 1 full size down from your US size. (40% off), Sale Price USD 135.00 Two weeks ago I bought the same cordovan boots as you did at Gabucci store. Both pairs were saddle loafers Are the Alden versions sufficiently versatile to wear with flannel, cords, and cavalry twill, maybe with an appropriate sports coat? I think it depends what you want out of the denim shirt. Additionally, I have a pair of Johnston and Murphy Crown Aristocrafts that are at least 30 years old and have been refurbished several times. I decided to buy a pair of dark brown cordovan loafers from Crockett & Jones shortly after the article, and they arrived today. For example, my Edward Green boots here could look good with both but theyd be a fairly smart, sleek look with denim. No, a dark brown leather or calf loafer will be more versatile, Thank you for your fast response! Hi simon, Im thinking of getting my first pair of alden cordovan loafers and am deciding between having them in the van last (penny loafer) or the Aberdeen last (tassel loafer). Feel free to send me a DM if none of your local retailers will. Yes, Van is wider so theres a lot more room in there, though I didnt find going a half size down worked for me that made the loafer too short on the toes. Im ambivalent and would to hear your thoughts. Using the renowned Horween Shell Cordovan that is highly regarded as the finest leather, the strap is saddle stitched by hand up to a hundred times, this gives durability with . Probably the NW1 in most respects. Its made on the 379X Military Last. Very limited grounds for complaint generally, and even then its better to focus on all of the options that are readily available vs. whats not. The loafers shown above - my Alden full-straps on the Aberdeen last - look almost black in this light. Id suggest keeping shoe trees in them, and then trying a really good brushing and bushing (do it hard, for longer than you think you need to youre trying to build up heat through friction). Is the squeaking noise will decrease in few weeks ? While most leathers are utilized and tanned to have the grain side (the side where the hair once was) out, shell cordovan is actually flesh out. Consistently earned 5-star reviews, shipped orders on time, and replied quickly to messages, Looks like you already have an account! Crocodile is my favourite but can be fiercely expensive.but I dont feel the need to tell people when wearing them !!! CHURCH do a first class resole service. I would have figured it to be more formal. But the full-strap loafers pictured here can pinch horribly. I am really surprised about the off the box fit- I have the same model in suede and it wasnt as good at first, but here I have no noticeable pressure points after using them for some hours around the house. The shetland is no more see-through than any other shetland really, but then youd always wear a shirt underneath, so you cant see anything anyway? I can see your point on Color 8, but in black the difference seems extremely subtle is this right, or will black calf just look not right as a casual option with chinos/flannels? Again, associations and familiarity. No worries at all all comments are always welcome, on any vaguely related post. Hi Simon On the contrary, I found Carminas work to be much cleaner in the pairs Ive checked. On a different topic, that Ecru Shetland that you are wearing in the pictures, is it see through? Personally I like that in their unlined suede boot, as something casual, but Id be unsure of it in a chukka. It is an extremely durable, naturally water-resistant leather with a glossy, mirror-like finish. Shell Cordovan is the jewel in the Horween Company's Crown and is seen by many as the very best leather in the world. Yes, normal cream is fine. . However, as someone who would like to add a versatile loafer to my shoes collection, and who quite likes the Ivy style, it is difficult to find in France such a loafer shape. What do you think of cordovan shoes made by UK manufacturers like Crocketts? He will know how much cloth he uses for his shirts. Thanks Quention. Hard to tell from the image, but yes I would have thought there would be more black/purple in there. Horween Shell Cordovan - Dark Cognac $189.00 Colour Horween Shell Cordovan - Dark Cognac Add to Cart $189.00 Description Horween Shell Cordovan leather Vegetable tanned lining Crown Northampton branding Hand stitch detail Small batch Read more Shipping info Tax Free Shopping - Non European Orders You might also like Similar to Dark Cognac but with some red tones. This type of data sharing may be considered a sale of information under California privacy laws. Original Price USD 145.00 The quality of Aldens soles is rather poor. 8 by any chance? Its something I will look at correcting at some point, perhaps by stretching them a little. There was a problem subscribing you to this newsletter. Rocado - "Classic" Shell Cordovan - Veg Tanned (Cognac) Alden isnt the greatest quality for the price you have to pay over here, but still, I would go for Alden if youre choosing. Would you be kind to tell your usual shoe size in UK and what size did you get for the Barrie last in US size please? Made with derby construction and open-faced lacing, the upper mirrors the look, feel and finish of high-quality dress shoes. Have you been happy with your boots in general? (15% off), Sale Price 94.55 I do have dark raw indigo jeans,olive and khaki chinos and real mccoys beige chinos and later would add ecru jeans. Recently Ive been struggling to figure out how to buy a perfect denim shirt. Im wondering would something like that be useful with wearing with shorts and say black/navy polos? Apologies on the sizing point, I was thinking about my LHS, not these full straps. The Hand Stitch Collection is finished with Lactae Hevea soles. Which do you prefer between the prototype and the NW1? Both were in a burgundy. Here in NYC, they are far more common than I have seen on trips to London. Cigar Also as mentioned in the article, I am planning on having the shoes stretched if I can, to deal with the issue you mention. Sale Price 156.32 As the owner of a dozen pairs of Alden Cordovans, I can tell you that the model youve chosen to highlight (the full strap loafer) is one of the most comfortable. My father and grandfather owned many pairs and Aldens wingtips and tassel loafers are a tradition amongst us here in New England. I do like the fact that its all eyelets and I like that in my boots. Most of our ready to wear production goes from size 6UK to 12UK, but if you happen to wear a smaller or larger size, we can definitely help & specially make any pair from our collection for you. Gunmetal, dark and metallic grey. Policies; Twitter Instagram Most leathers for shoes are by-products of the meat. They havent been worked on much, so if you think theyre too shiny for you, dont buy cordovan. My feet get very hot, and Ive noticed a small difference in my boots, but certainly nothing in my loafers. No I think youre right Paul, there is only a very small difference there and it will look fine. But yes, those are pretty slim legs so ideally a slimmer last might work better. One, I have a very wide foot, US EEE. Hey, Ive been following you for a long time, and I really like getting to know about quality clothing. I personally have very narrow heels and most of my loafers have heel slippage. No worries. (20% off), Sale Price USD 112.00 They do a lot of boots, Red Wings etc. Its pretty confusing as the size guides on the internet are sometimes inconsistent. I have been talked out of purchasing cordovan shoes by Alden and others because of two issues. Would also say there are lots of great casual combinations with black shoes. Cordovan is the layer of the hide between the subcutis and dermis. Hi,Simon What is your take on Crockett and Jones Bradford (Cordovan). easily my fav shoes for the summers. Do you think these in Dark Cognac cordovan would work with something like grey flannels as the top end of the formality scale? I would appreciate your thoughts and maybe another recommendation! Turning off the personalized advertising setting wont stop you from seeing Etsy ads or impact Etsy's own personalization technologies, but it may make the ads you see less relevant or more repetitive. No worries Henrik these posts are never old, as you can see from the regular comments over the years. Any recommendations regarding color and style would be appreciated. (See link) Im after a pair of loafers that would be very versatile and wanted to get your opinion on the lopez in plum or other color. Said that, better to compare with another pair of Goodyear Welted or dress shoes you have or have tried before. $200.00 Very limited quantities available. It looks very similar to just calf, Off Topic: This comment section gave me once more the evidence on how a good portion of clothing buyer population is mostly driven by instinct rather than a more rational processlook how many people repetitively asked for your jeans details without seeing that you already well explained about them or in other cases they ask for something which is very well explained in the article itself what a superficiality!! Hi Simon, nice to see you moving into this area of things, been a reader for about 8 years now and this is my first time commenting I think. Simon Thanks so much and take care! But it is also absolutely unique - the kind of thing you recognise immediately on someone else walking down the street. My two pairs of Cordovan Derbies are now 20 years old and they still have more than enough fat in them. Its almost like youre wearing down and moulding the surface. 3) It does soften up a bit, but not a huge amount. Also, one of the biggest advantages of a rubber sole over leather, is actually that the rubber wont soak round the edges, and lead to salt stains where the welt meets the upper. Saphir Creme Cordovan. Looking for suggestions and guidance. Appreciate the effort and your service for fashion aficionados. Im a little particular about a belt being similar i colour to the shoe colour. What strap did you pair with the Merci watch? Thanks. Thank you. Stay up to date on the latest product releases, special offers & news by signing up for our newsletter. (10% off), Sale Price USD 152.00 Add to Cart. Remove Ads. 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