So, Im a bit confused by your post. Sentricon is 98% effective over a 5 (five) year period. I hope that makes sense. We have had two estimates one from Orkin and the other from Terminex. Im still on the fence between Termidor vs. Sentricon but I feel more educated having read these comments. Both were highly recommended for commercial use but I wasnt sure how much residential experience they have and whether it matters? Since you dont have any experience with Sentricon, you have no idea of the control rates. I just closed on a house that had termite damage a couple of years ago, but was repaired. Also, Advance encourages skimping by the pest pro. Its more of an insurance, once your on the program, and the customer suspects termite activity, they will come to inspect and if confirmed then treat using Termindor.The program also has a yearly inspection to make sure no termites are found within 5ft of the house. This patent ensures that BASF has single right to a niche of the market, and if the product generates good sales it will also bring revenue. Termidors 10 year tests show plenty enough strength to kill with an estimated 15 year max in the right soil conditions.. termidor does not dilute every time it rains like other products such as Premise 75.. A large colony can empty a bait tube in 2 weeks , Ive seen it happen many times . Natural alternatives for termite treatment are recently getting increasingly popular. For years, homeowners have been looking for a green solution for their termite problems. Termite Guys Brisbanes biggest purpose is to ensure you as a homeowner the absolutely safest protection of your home. You may also want to rent a ground fault interrupter (GFI). They have phone customer service, reviews, the official Advance logos and product literature pdfs and even videos to show you how to install the products. Sign in for a personalized shopping experience and faster checkout. For being president of your little Gunter Pest management, you sure treat people poorly. It has strong soil bonding properties and can be used where there is moisture movement is the soil. Here is the bottom line everybody: If a termite company wants to do a bait only termite treatment, dont walk away from that company, run from it. The termites then then die due to lack of activity and inability to eat. Reading the comments from several years ago, I thought I was given incorrect information Sentricon system altogether! I worked for both for about 12 years each. Termites go for the wood in the ground no matter how old it is. Use Down arrow key to expand the submenu and up/down arrow keys to navigate within the submenu. My company has treated over 30,000 homes for termites in the past 50 years. Sentricon is more environmentally friendly. Sorry bout the confusion.But but now that I understand you live in an area with long bad winters I would say no baits. This substance is passed around the colony by the termites, and keeps them from properly molting. We do more Termidor jobs than Sentricon jobs every year. Also Termidor will solve your problem in months not years and as for above ground baits ,,,, they have a high failure rate .. Unlike Termites, Ants spend alot of time on the surface and can travel long distances, so it doesnt last as long for Ants. I think Termidor is the way Im going to go. Just not enough history with it yet. WebAltriset is non-repellent to the termites and also very safe for the environment, probably the safest of all currently available termiticides. If it doesnt attract them, then Ill reconsider chemical barrier treatment. Termindor treatment only for the exterior walls, he didnt recommend Sentricon as we have active termite activity. The renewal inspection rate should probably be around $120 for Termidor or $285 for Sentricon. In your case I would suggest a bait system if there is no current sign of activity but you know they are there..I would also suggest checking other companies cause Sentricon is the most expensive but not the best. Any salesperson trying to sell you ANY termite baiting system is just wanting your money. My neighbor paid $375/year after an installment fee of $1200. Instead, they contact, ingest and share Termidor , completely unaware that doing so inevitably will kill them. Is it ok that they dont offer a warranty? Is this Altriset really any safer? Dan, just be careful buying Termidor online.There is alot of counterfeit being sold online and E-Bay is full of it..You can get it from one of those doityourselfpestcontrol.com sites, but once you buy enough to do it right youll have almost as much in it as if you had paid a pro. Within 90 days, all termites in or around your house will be dead. Using a repellent would seem stupid because it would just divert the termites to a part of the basement where we couldnt see them (if theyre not already there). I bought a house last year, the house was previously treated for termites 5 years ago, in the inspector said that there were no active termites at the moment I bought the house. Look for a local company in your area. 5 yrs? As strange as it may sound, I think I would feel better about spending the money if we knew we had termites currently feeding on the house. I live in a wooded area and dont want to wait around to see if Im going to catch anything in a trap. What is this ones? WebAltriset is also proven to last longer than other termiticides, sometimes as much as twice as long. However, if I have to spend any further time moderating it, I will simply lock the comments. What I do is a 5 year guarantee,with no yearly renewal fee due for the first five years, then after 5 years a yearly renewal fee of 50.00 -75.00. WebHere are the 5 best termite killers available on the market right now: Taurus SC: Most Popular Bifen XTS : Best Fast-acting Spectracide Terminate: Best Bait Termidor Foam: Best Direct Chemical Treatment BioAdvanced Termite Killer: Best for DIY Best Overall 5/5 Request Inspection 866-569-4035 Save $50 on a recurring pest control plan today! I like the idea of a 2 part monitoring system. And relax Jay, I dont think killing bugs is something to get a complex over anyway lol! Those pest guys that push Advance Bait are usually operators who either never got accepted as an AO (Authorized Operator), or who had their dealership taken away. 2-is there really any value to a warranty against damage, with how the exclusions are written? Termidor costs about $50 more than Sentricon up front, but the annual contract, which covers monitoring, periodic reapplication (if necessary) and repair of any termite damage is about $150 less for Termidor as compared to Sentricon. Once the application gets covered with soil, there is no visible sign of treatment. We do not sell this product or other Restricted Use Pesticides. Jessica- A lot of it is political. In fact, within a couple years, Sentricon will be labeled for annual (once a year) inspections, rather than quarterly. Call 1-855-55-EPEST (37378) You can purchase bait stations on line to install and monitor yourself. Thanks for any help Find a company who has been around at least 15 20 years. Sounds like they have something to hide like maybe not being licensed and insured. It works by paralyzing the muscles of the termites. Our full perimeter subterranean termite treatments also include a one year, moneyback guarantee! .good luck. Have a pest control company use Termidor or Premise. I did have a few links. Advance has none that I know of. WebTermidor is an advanced undetectable liquid technology. This can be be a real issue when it comes to using termite Sentricon baiting systems. Instead of a thread to help people learn about the difference between liquid and bait termite treatments, it has turned into an two against one anti-Sentricon site. The science behind them is that the termites will find the bait in the stations, eat it, go feed up to several million of their sisters, then be unable to shed their skins (exo-skeletons), then die as a result. However, if you want to do it yourself, we've put together a simple strategy that makes the job easy. It prevents further termite damage as well. You could have great success. My company has been around for 50 years and I am an authorized user of Sentricon as well as a current user of Termidor. Is termidor safe enough that some seepage is no big deal? There is nothing to leach. For one, Orkin (at least in North Carolina) uses Advance bait stations, and not Firstline. There is a narrow sidewalk and 3ft. Was I ripped off??? Perform reference checks of other customers they have services. Answer: Altriset Termiticide and Termidor SC are both used as an outdoor treatment for termites. Although it is possible to get all of the ground/dirt under the house. And, areas treated with this product will be protected for years because it is long-lasting. Termidor is termidor right? It is also regarded as one of the most toxic. Is there any truth to this? With more than 20 years of research and 16 years of market performance, Termidor termiticide is the most trusted name in termite control. Thus, chemical treatment is a more viable alternative. I dont want to use something that will have any toxicity to my family now or in years to come, like organophosphates. That is a good question because in todays world, most people are very concerned about providing a safe environment for their family and pets. The prices quoted were $10/lin ft from one company and a total of $1920 from another. Sooner or later, termites find it a tiny 2 inch piece of wood inserted in the ground. called in the pest control operator who did perimeter treatment using Termidor and spot treatment behind the fridge. It just takes one of them to find the wood in the station underground, then they leave pheromones to attract the other termites. Once termites start eating the bait, they spread it to all the other termites in the colony and they literally wipe themselves out of existence. EPA regulation says all termiticides must show initial signs of breaking down in 3 5 years. So clearly everything they do is the best way to do it. Thats right! I supposed Termidor/Premise should not interfere with Sentricon always active stations since those chemical is non-rependent? Why wait to get them? Does that really mean you can let it sit for a year? We both know you could safely offer that, and it would really make you stand out from the competition. You should stay far away from advice from Ron D. This is a good website that provides a good discussion about liquid vs bait termite products. or is this a case where I need to pray to the termite poison god that Sentricon gets this done? Also google them to look for complaints ( I find this works for almost any company ). It is the ONLY termite control product on the market that actually eliminates all the termite colonies surrounding a structure. I live in northeast PA. Home is 10 years old and no signs of damage. Such excavation is not a highly unusual event for the typical homeowner. Then, anytime within the year, we come back for free to inspect or treat. Hammer Drill. I would appreciate your input! There are a lot of black market and boot-leg products out there. We have been in the termite control business for 33 years and from experience, whatever treatment you choose is not as important as the company you choose. It just seems there is a lot of unguarded space between stationsthe stations could be bypassed. Anthony: It depends. Alternatively, liquid jobs (ie Termidor) costs more for the initial application and less for the annual inspection, but the cost difference is insignificant. The public does not know about the relationship, and it looks bad, Golds research on baiting systems was financed by the Texas Attorney Generals office. Termidor is labeled for indoor use if youre drilling an interior expansion joint or foaming a termite infested wall. Every single one of your local pest control companies. Jim. Check your facts before you decide to lie about them. I have used all Termite and Pest Control products in 54 years, including hydrocarbon and organophosphate products that have been removed from the market by the EPA due to environmental pollution reasons. Last night that I get home I had even more dead all over my house. I have been involved with the termite and pest treatment industy for the past 12 years,as well as the construction and re-construction aspect for the past 15 years. More frightening than chemicals in the home is pest control people that dont understand what they are applying. Anyone know whats going on? Tom, the best advise would be to stay away from Orkin (Firstline is by far the worst bait on the market), overpriced and under trained. I did not say anything offensive or personal in the posts. Fumigations are recommended for homes with widespread infestations and/or where you have termites extending into inaccessible areas. I dont want anything in the house that may release a harmful chemical into the air. This percentage is low due to the fact that in many of the 25 test sites, termites have not even begun feeding on the Sentricon stations (Gold). Several manufactures have said to me that the label change from monthly and bi-monthly to quarterly and tri-annually was only done because the larger companies wanted a way to cut back on service/manpower.I have seen multiple hits in the first month a few times. I discovered them by turning the light on one night and there were a couple hundred flying termites. There was plenty of excavation in areas that would have been treated by Termidor if Id taken that route, plenty of tracking of dirt all over my yard and organic garden, plenty of opportunity for exposure. However, cheaper is only a better deal if the product isnt inferior. As a matter of fact Dow\Sentricon fired Terminix cause al the stations were full of mudddddd. Other than finding a local company that has begun to use it? It is basically like the old Sentricon method that required more trips to check, etc. Your best bet is to go with Termidor. It controls the infestation totally in three months. It is water soluble, and less enduring in wet soils. Why wouldnt everyone just treat with Termidor, and forget about termites until another 10-15 years? Density: approx. A small amount of cement or sand mix mixed in a small bowl with water works perfect for patching holes drilled in cement etc. I discovered I have termites because I had holes in my KAF-FLEX flexible PVC pipes to my 6 yr old inground pool. Has strong trophollaxis effect and is very effective. I have also used Firstline with Orkin, it is truly junk, you can buy the same bait at Lowes..I currently use Esystex (Exterra) which is similar to Sentricon and Advance.I always let my bait customers know that this is a LONG TERM COMMITMENT . If we treat now, the workers will stir up a ton of dust (Termidor sticks to soil) which will pose a danger to workers and us, and spread the poison around the surface of our property. I am glad we spent the extra money our house has been termite free for 15 years. My basic treatment is about $2,200. Never have I used baits or applied termidor at .06% and I have never had a re treatment in 26-years. Dow refuses to release their research and efficacy statistics to the public. The bait is tightly packed in a plastic container. That is what they do, they continuously forage seeking out cellulose and moisture. Sentricon is the only University-tested termite control product that totally eliminates the termite colonies underground at their source. It works on termites only and does not affect humans or pets negatively. only a little paper on the dry wall was eaten. Tyler, not all Orkin and Terminix techs are bad. With the help of ATP the active ingredient has more movement horizontally and vertically compared to Termidor SC. (This is a very reputable company in our area and they sell both but basically said I can ruin my tile porch or go with the bait Sentricon system but after doing a lot of reading Im not so sure what to do anymore.) Thank you! I live in New England and have owned my home for 15 years. If you want a long term, environmentally friendly solution, go Sentricon. I really dont appreciate your blanket statements about my company. Ive had 3 companies recommend Sentricon (Erlich & Knockout only bait, Orkin bait and borate sprayed on damaged wood) and 1 local company (Pest Shield) that recommends using Phantom around the outside of the house (drilled into my stoop and rear patio as well) & sprayed on damaged wood inside, in combination with Advanced bait traps around the house. Both are neo-nicotinal class insecticides, but Termidor is the more expensive of the two. Chemical is noviflumuron that is non-toxic. This sounds like a routine treatment. How is there any doubt remaining that thats going to be the better deal? Sigh. Although I was recently called by someone with active termites who had been using another local small company like me for years . In the case of the bait installations, the average time to first feeding is 100 days, and there is no estimate of the average time to termite control. Also, how far apart and how far from the house should they be installed? Upon reading Company A proposal, it states that It is understood and agreed that this guarantee covers the native Subterranean termite only and excludes the Formosan Subterranean termite, the non-subterranean (Kalotermitidae, hodotermitidae, and rhinotermitdae) and all other wood destroying insects and organisms.. Obviously termites have a unique intellect that I do not understand but others have touched on why would they make more work for themselves and build surface tunnels to the bait stations in a cold climate when they can stay deep and have a year-round food source with your house? Curious as to what to do. If there is no signal, then everything is ok. The Sentricon System consists of a series of bait stations surrounding the perimeter of your house. If termite damage occurs will the vendor repair all damages regardless of cost or is their a maximum?.Can you negotiate escalation cost on the yearly contract etc ? If you are dealing with Formosan Termites, the carton nest will have to be found and removed usually a direct application of termiticide will take care of the problem. A termite infestation can be one of the biggest challenges for any homeowner. You now have an alternative treatment product that is not only much safer to use, it is also highly effective, long lasting and has the research results to prove it. Altriset is a highly effective termite control product that stops the termites from feeding within hours of application. Authorized Sentricon Operators are not just selling a warranty. Doesnt the bait in Advanced have some amount of active ingredient as well? I would go with either Sentricon or Termidor. Termite Colony Baiting can be easily performed with our Hex Pro Termite Baiting System. Also, I promise that the product I sell is the one I use on my own home and I am telling you honestly that I havent seen a bug within 100 miles of my pristine abode in 50 years thanks to a single application of my companys awesome safe green 100% effective (not-guaranteed) product. Jim- you are welcome to your opinion. Termites are constantly foraging to find cellulose (wood). I have recently found termites in my house and have begun getting quotes for treatment. Should I be? Dr. Nan Yao Su of the University of Florida indicated that Sentricon (and hes the one that helped develop it) is only 20% effective against subterranean termites. Save Up to 30% on Select Lawn & Pest Control Products- Shop Now . The new Sentricon (called Always Active) IS pre-baited. I work for Orkin, and I think very highly of the company. I simply cannot see anyone asking you to be an expert witness in any courtroom setting; youre just too emotional. Jay- I never attempted to become selected by Sentricon. Thanks guys. WebBoth termite direct kill and termite indirect kill termite treatments deliver on their promise to end your infestation fast. Density: approx. Any advice about warranties on Thermidor? Just discovered our house in Ft. Worth TX has a termite infestation. Advance has the potential to favor the pest company, instead of the consumer because with Sentricon, everything (stations, bait, support, etc) is included with the fee. Its on a slab. Our condos are on slabs and are part stucco and vinyl and wood. In the battle against termite workers that never stop foraging, this is essential for success. Arrow is charging $500 to treat/$275 to repair the damaged 2X6 along with a $250 annual renewal maintenance fee for their Sentricon system. Altriset termiticide starts acting on the infestation soon after application on the infested areas. 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