Das knnt ihr hier tun: https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_s-xclick\u0026hosted_button_id=WHWPUGS6TJXQGVielen DANK!! [17], Comparative trials were nevertheless held at Mailly-le-Camp, Meppen, Bourges and Satory[17] between five French and five German prototypes between August and October 1963, under Italian, Dutch, Belgian and American supervision. Don't aim at the turret since there's no guarantee it will take out the cannon breech or the gunner, aim anywhere at the hull. In combination with a good gun depression of -9 (meaning, you can lower the gun quite extensively), an experienced Leopard I driver can exploit uneven terrain to effectively fight his enemies without showing much of his vehicle - or being in the inconvenient situation to leave his cover to return fire. Archived post. Archived post. The main strengths of the Leopard I are its high mobility and the above-average rate of fire of the main cannon. So of these two ideologies, which was more effective? The original engine was exchanged for an improved variant, known as the HS-110.2, producing 680 horsepower (510kW). The vehicle was the predecessor of the Leopard medium tank. Prototype developed from 1960 through 1961 as a medium tank for the Bundeswehr, with a total of 26 prototypes manufactured. They were controlled by an analogue computer, receiving information from a Doppler radar, which could be folded into an armoured box when not in use to protect from damage. The first prototypes were built in 1965 at the Krauss-Maffei factory. I know it doesnt have a stab which is huge but otherwise how do they compare against each other? War Thunder The AMX 10RC simp3s.net. Download full books in PDF and EPUB format. Always have that in mind when positioning yourself against the enemy - and don't forget that you don't have to stack all of your ammunition racks to their maximum capacity! The first prototypes were built in 1965 at the Krauss-Maffei factory. The first production order of 1,500 tanks was placed in 1963, and in September, 1965 the first serial Leopard 1 was delivered to the Bundeswehr. The consortium itself consisted of AEG, Krupp Atlas Elektronik, MTU, Wegmann & Co., Diehl, ZF Friedrichshafen, and GLS. The AMX-30 and the Leopard 1 on the other hand seem to follow a different idea of being light and mobile to avoid being hit. The gunner was given a telescoping gun sight and two observation periscopes. Its hull and suspension were similar to that of the German Panther tank, which had been used by the French Army in the immediate post-war. DM512; HESH (High-Explosive Squash-Head) works very differently than other shell types. Leopard 1 vs. Bat.-Chtillon 25 t. Leopard 1 vs. Bat.-Chtillon 25 t. Leopard 1 vs. AMX 30 B. Leopard 1 vs. Sometimes it can be wise to take less ammunition with you, as it will increase your survivability when taking hits - especially with the Leopard. It is recommended to carry as little ammo as possible, about 20 rounds, as the majority will be stored in the rack at the front left of the vehicle, being an extreme vulnerability if overloaded when in a head-on engagement. Armoured recovery vehicles and bridge-laying variants remain in service. During the action, Qatari AMX-30s knocked out three Iraqi T-55s and captured four more. It is thickest near the centre in contrast to the borders where it is the thinnest. Its not like the AMX-30 faces dramatically different opponents, so the M48A2C vs M48A1 justification doesn't work either. Finally, the tank received new tungsten penetrator APFSDS high-velocity ammunition in 1981. [130] These were largely displaced by an order for 315 M1A2 Abrams tanks in 1989, and the acquisition of 450 M60A3 Patton tanks. [105], AMX-30 production occurred at the Atelier de Construction de Roanne in the town of Roanne. Besides the diesel engines, they had changed hull and turret casts and different gun mantlets; the latter would again be changed in the production vehicles. Once you get the heatfs it's probably fine, but with me Leo 1 I didn't get past parts, fpe and hesh. The bridge has a width of 3.1 meters (3.4yd), but can be increased to 3.95 meters (4.32yd) through the use of appliqu panels. [94][95], The self-propelled anti-aircraft gun began development in 1969 to provide this type of vehicle to the French Army and for export. The French believed that it would have required too much armour to protect against the latest anti-tank threats, thereby reducing the tank's maneuverability. The armor of the vehicle was quite thin, but it was decided that technological advances in anti-tank shells had essentially rendered armor obsolete: survivability would depend on mobility and firepower. I've also found that the play style I've developed playing it has improved my skills tremendously. The Leopard 1 saw service in the armies of more than 10 countries. the Leopard C2 is now obsolete and the Canadian government has opted to use the Leopard 2. A prototype was finished in 1967 with a new cast turret, wide enough to hold the much larger armament. Between 1979 and 1981, Saudi Arabia also received 52 AMX-30SAs and later 50 AMX-30C1 Shanine-2s delivered in two batches, between 1980 and 1989. The design finished trials by the end of 1963 and production started in Munich in February of 1964. In the early 1960s, Mitsubishi started development of a new tank that complied with government requirements for armament and defense. All information comes from wikipedia.org, cia.gov, icanw.org, government websites and press releases. The AMX-30 is a main battle tank designed by Ateliers de construction d'Issy-les-Moulineaux (AMX, then GIAT) and first delivered to the French Army in August 1966. and AMX-30 DCA anti-aircraft gun vehicles all of these . As a result, work on developing a . All rights reserved. This topic is locked; 12 replies to this topic Poll: Read before voting (41 members have cast votes) Which is better for you? [141] With the beginning of the ground offensive of 24 February 1991, French forces moved to attack its first target, "Objective Rochambeau", which was defended by a brigade from the Iraqi 45th Infantry Division. Using a simplified inertial guidance system and a solid propellant rocket motor, the Pluton has a maximum range of 120 kilometers (75mi). You see both of the M60 and Leopard I are made from the era that gave rather low priority to tank protection. [93] 12 vehicles were purchased by the Saudi Arabian Army. The Leopard A1A6 mark was a short-lived attempt at arming the Leopard 1 turret with a more powerful 120mm main gun - a larger caliber gun most commonly found on competing Soviet/Russian main battle tanks. In the initial stages of development, France and West Germany, interested in this tank design, worked on it from 1957 to build a common tank and the project was designated the Europa-Panzer. [96] Recognizing the need for tactical nuclear missile mobile launchers, the French Army began developing the Pluton missile in 1963. Connexion Contactez-nous. A raid by Gazelle helicopters paved the way for an attack by the 4e Rgiment de Dragons. Download M60 vs T-62 PDF full book. Its replacement, the AMX 50, was cancelled in the mid-1950s in favor of adopting the M47 Patton tank. [118] Ultimately, Spain opted for the AMX-30 for a variety of reasons, including British unwillingness to sell the L7 tank gun to a fascist regime[119] and the French offer to allow the AMX-30 to be manufactured in Spain. Overall, mobility is excellent and should be used to your advantage since the tank has limited armour. 280 units were manufactured by Santa Brbara Sistemas for the Spanish Army, between 1974 . [88], The armoured recovery vehicle, known as the AMX-30D (AMX-30 Dpanneur-Niveleur), was designed to recuperate or help maintain vehicles in the field. E 100; X Grille 15; X Vickers Light; X FV4202; X FV215b; X Chieftain Mk. The AMX-30 is a similar tank to its younger counterpart, the AMX-30 (1972), with the 20 mm coaxial autocannon replaced by a 12.7 mm heavy machinegun, still able to deal with lightly armoured targets such as SPAA, but doesn't deal the extra punch of an autocannon. It was introduced in Update 1.51 "Cold Steel" . The German tank became the Leopard 1, while the French prototype became the AMX-30. According to the test results, the characteristics of the Object 430 and the Object 430U will remain the same as they are on the main server. This prototype is known as the Dmonstrateur Furtif Chenille. Greece bought 104 Leopard 1A3s in 1983. during 1992, Greece received a further 75 Leopard 1A5. [131] Although Saudi Arabia planned to procure more M1 tanks, it was unable to do so for financial reasons and the AMX-30 has still not been retired. Protection, instead, was provided by the speed and the compact dimensions of the vehicle, including a height of 2.28 metres. Main armament: 125 mm 2A46M/2A46M-5 smoothbore gun: 1 105 mm Royal Ordnance L7A3 L/52 rifled gun: Engine: They both are much lighter than the other two and have much weaker armor, from what I could find less than 100 millimeters frontally. [114], Having in February 1964 decided to produce its own battle tank, Israel at first considered licence production of AMX-30 hulls, while importing the turrets from France. However, the Leclerc is wider at 3.60 m compared to 3.36 m (with side skirts) of the latter. The projects in both countries were conducted virtually in parallel, but in 1963, before the end of comparative testing of the French and German tanks, Germany declined to cooperate further with France. [144] Two were lost. In 1979, due to issues caused by the transmission, the French Army began to modernize its fleet of tanks to AMX-30B2 standards, which included a new transmission, an improved engine and the introduction of a new OFL 105 F1 fin-stabilized kinetic energy penetrator. [136] Two Qatari AMX-30 were lost during the battle. [58] In 1985, the number of AMX-30s had risen to 1,173. The fuel efficient engine, in conjunction with a total fuel capacity of 970 liters (260U.S.gal), gave the AMX-30 a maximum road range of up to 600 kilometers (370mi). Ive also found that the play style Ive developed playing it has improved my skills tremendously. Spain also procured 10 AMX-30Ds and 18 AMX-30Rs. The Leopard is quite fast, so taking hits from a distance while on the move is a risk that you may consider worth taking. The ZSU-57-2 can be easily destroyed by hitting one of the many ammo racks in the big turret, which often leads to an explosion of the whole tank. Although the three nations agreed to a series of specific characteristics that the new tank should have, and both France and Germany began work on distinctive prototypes with the intent of testing them and combining the best of both, the program failed as Germany decided not to adopt the new French 105-millimetre (4.1in) tank gun and France declared that it would postpone production until 1965. [107] By 1971, about 180 vehicles were in service; in 1975 delivery began of the last 143 units of the final eighth batch of the original order. The turret front is also the same, it's best to attempt to only fire when you can avoid receiving a shot or relocating to a position if possible. The Leopard I mounts one coaxial 7.62 mm machine gun and one pintle-mounted 7.62 mm machine gun. AltProto AMX 30 Legend of the Hunter 2021 Fictional Revenant AMX 13 90 Bonus code (Canceled Halloween Event 2019) Fictional Hornet AMX 13 90 Mirny-13 2020 Non-historical Marengo Bat.-Chtillon 25 t AP Unknown Historical By 1979, seven prototypes had been produced, and six pre-series vehicles, followed by the production of 110 vehicles. The Leopard 1 saw service in the armies of more than 10 countries. Beberapa simulator tank telah dimiliki TNI AD diantaranya adalah Leopard, Scorpion dan Stormer. Like the APDS shot, increased armour thickness results in a reduced amount of shrapnel after penetration. Italian Leopard 1 MBTs were retired from service by 2008, and are replaced with the native Italian C1-Ariele tank. The project for the Leopard started as far back as 1956 as an attempt to replace the American M47 and M48 Patton tanks in service at the time as they were becoming outdated to newer anti-tank technology. Turkey bought and upgraded 170 Leopard 1A1 tanks and upgraded all to Leopard 1T 'Volkan'. and our Leopard 2A5 - The Leopard 2A5 is a dangerous opponent, with a small gun mantlet weak spot and impenetrable turret cheeks. Developed in 1966. So of these two ideologies, which was more effective? AMX 30 B is just perfect. Name: T-72 Leopard 1; Type: Main battle tank: Main battle tank: Origin: Russia: Germany: Produced: 1973: 1965-1979: Unit cost: 1-2 million $ (2009)-More: Description, operators: Description, operators: Specifications. Leopard 1 is a horrible stock grind.. [139] Experimentally, a new regimental organisational structure was used, with three squadrons of thirteen tanks, a command tank and six reserve vehicles, instead of the then normal strength of 52 units. Denmark no longer uses Leopard 1 tanks as an MBT (replaced by leopard 2), but still uses an armoured recovery vehicle variant. [128] The United Arab Emirates placed an order in 1977 for 64 tanks and a single armoured recovery vehicle, to complete an armoured brigade, in 1977. le char allemand Leopard 1 a t considr comme le meilleur char de bataille du monde, un vritable " seigneur de la guerre froide " capable, par ses seules qualits . Developed in 1966. This MBT is armed with the British L7A3 105 mm rifled gun. Five vehicles of a pre-series were completed by 1977 and then evaluated, prompting the order of 183 vehicles that same year. [38] Full preparation for water operations consisted of the addition of a snorkel tube, the installation of blanking plates, carried on the front of the hull, over the engine compartment's air intake louvers,[53] and the installation of infrared driving equipment, including a searchlight. The AMX-30 and the Leopard 1 on the other hand seem to follow a different idea of being light and mobile to avoid being hit. [5] The prototypes were designated M4s, and AMX completed its prototype in 1949, while SOMUA would not be finished until 1956. Leopard 1 vs T-72 | Comparison tanks specifications Compare tanks Leopard 1 T-72 Compare Share Leopard 1 and T-72 Specifications Caliber 0 25 50 75 100 125 Leopard 1 T-72 Caliber [mm] More Dimensions Leopard 1 T-72 Length Width Height 0 2 4 6 8 10 Images Leopard 1 The Belgian Leopards were retired from service in 2014. . Then, after you have located the enemy, fire a few rounds in quick succession and relocate when spotted, especially when the enemy shots come dangerously close. [135], Qatari AMX-30s saw combat during the Gulf War at the Battle of Khafji, where on 30 January 1991 they counter-attacked in an attempt to retake the city of Khafji from Iraqi forces which had occupied it the night before. . The reverse is about -15 km/h off-road. Calling the AMX-30 a complete failure is probably a bit harsh, but it's true that Leopard 1 was a better tank. There is, however, a significant downside to HEATFS: Given that it is a chemical energy round, its fuse is highly sensitive in regards to its practical application in battle. T-72M4 Czech Republic Leclerc France AMX-40 France AMX-32 France AMX-30 France Leopard 2PL Germany / Poland KF-51 Panther Germany Revolution Germany Leopard 2A7A1 Germany Leopard 2A7 Germany Leopard 2A6 Germany The AMX-30E (E stands for Espaa, Spanish for Spain) is a Spanish main battle tank based on France's AMX-30.Although originally the Spanish government sought to procure the German Leopard 1, the AMX-30 was ultimately awarded the contract due to its lower price and the ability to manufacture it in Spain. Greece is now the current operator of the most Leopard 1 tank. This can be compared to the AMX-40 10.04 m overall length, while their hulls are of almost similar length. These both have particularly high rates of fire, and can be used as a deterrent for close air support as well as clearing light obstacles and crew in open-top vehicles. Fortunately, the OFL 120 F1 round can punch straight through the hull. [64], In the nineties, a reactive armour package, named BRENUS or Brennus,[65] was developed for the AMX-30B2, but was issued only to two tank regiments, which in peacetime were combined into the 1er/ 2e Chasseurs, that were part of France's rapid reaction force;[59][66] the other two regiments using the AMX-30, the 2e/5e Dragons,[67] only had their tanks adapted for a possible relatively quick upgrade, in case of an emergency. AMX-30 with stock HEAT and coax 20mm and nerfed movility is superior and the Italians have the same gun and ammunition in 7.3 but germany op reeeeeeeeeee. Main battle tank of the Federal Republic of Germany. 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