Think you've seen a mountain lion. Patrick Tate: So it's very typical. I came to a stop and it was and I've seen a lot of bobcats in my time and I just came to a stop it was just sort of confused about what I was seeing. But no proof was offered. You've got you've got biologists right who are trying to make their make their way in the world make a career if you are the biologists who confirmed a sighting of mountain lions in the state that would be very good for you like you would be all over the news. No evidence and other states where Mountain lights have turned up. So the whole media hype about how scary mountain lions are should should go away immediately and that would be that I think the major thrust of educating folks about these casualties vs.. Sam Evans-Brown: Sam go ahead. Peter Biello: So a little bit of nostalgia maybe for it for a better world embodied in the mountain lion. By, March 2023 Fund Drive Rules and Regulations, Persons with disabilities who need assistance accessing NHPR's FCC public files, please contact us at publicfile@nhpr.org. A monthly donation of $5 makes a real difference. The next day I crossed the river and took pictures of a paw print he left behind . You know you have to have a license and it's hard to get that license a license to own a mountain lion. Sue Morse: The big cat really commands the utmost respect not so much fear but fascination. But are there mountain lions living in New Hampshire? And what was really remarkable about the whole thing was I was maybe a half mile down on all buildings. Listeners give us a call if you'd like. Deer manages to free itself from the claws of a mountain lion in Alpine, California. There have been several alleged sightings of mountain lions in New Hampshire recently. I just don't understand the mechanism for how that would happen. I've collected scat samples I've got several in my collection. I'm Peter Biello in for Laura NOI. And to anyone listening I would just say you know fishing game who wants proof right. There are corollaries in other states. Peter Biello: Rick I believe you did mention that that they do leave carcasses up in the tree from time to time but are there any other species known in New Hampshire to do this on a regular basis. And Rick van de Poll naturalist and founder of ecosystem management consultants of New England. The great thing about pictures isn't the animal itself it's the background. Peter Biello: Let's talk to Ron and where Ron thanks very much for calling. Patrick Tate: If I could just say one thing. Well just that I have evidence and it was not it was denied by fishing game at the time and I you know there's I don't need to prove to anybody that I saw one just like some of your callers said okay. Like why would you want one wildlife. Sunny today high temperatures low to mid 80s it'll be clear tonight overnight lows in the 50s for tomorrow sunshine with high temperatures mid to upper 80s. What kind of animal is that. Yeah I did. Thank you very much for being here. There's just one subspecies of North American mountain lion. Good morning guys. Peter Biello: Yeah. Incredible sighting and I called him the fish and game and they immediately sent me to a website to look at all the bobcat pictures. And the second question is this a behavior mountain lions exhibit. #4. To date most of the pictures that have been sent in have been bobcats and other species Ive received pictures of house cats. New York on Easter Sunday. Some of the reports that I looked into that were actually on file at the local fish and game office were even from people who did not live locally. If youve got photo trap evidence of a Mountain Lion, send it in, and we'll send it along to the appropriate state or federal agency! I've seen him in the woods and that was not a bobcat but I was looking at. The last Massachusetts Mountain Lion was killedaround 1858. They peaked in . Peter Biello: So Rick seems like you agree that the tail is a big giveaway whether or not it's a mountain lion Absolutely. It's you know I recognized their report and. Patrick Tate: Exactly I was gonna bring that up juvenile male of. Peter Biello: So if they were female mountain lions here they would be more males just because that's what they're looking for. But I was riding a mountain bike not far from my house. They're just moving around freely. So try to take photographs if you see something like this. Yes. But along the lines of the conspiracy theories as you mentioned earlier there there was a bit of a sense on behalf of what I'll call the promo online community who felt that fishing gain maybe not even so much in a spoken policy but maybe sort of an unspoken policy did not want to find themselves in a situation where they had to spend money to create a management plan and so forth. On June 9 2021 I saw a Mountain Lion along the Connecticut river in Clarksville New Hampshire . The best documentation we have in New Hampshire suggests there hasnt been a mountain lion killed by a hunter in this state since 1885. So I learned about what Rick just reported through a heart of heart of New Hampshire a letter and. Information that weed family automotive dot com sunny for today high temperatures low to mid 80s clear tonight overnight lows in the 50s tomorrow sunny highs in the upper 80s. So so in 2011 a mountain lion was killed in a car accident in Connecticut a car hit a mountain lion and killed it. You know I'm like seriously I can't get a picture of the thing but what it what it is. Here it is. I believe I saw one that's fine and I'm not looking for an immediate story. And then just up behind it you know at about 11 o'clock on one side and whatever that would be on the other side it's black. So. Jun 13, 2011. Despite numerous reports, the NH Fish and Game Department continues to have no physical evidence of mountain lion presence in the state. Really appreciate it. Artculos cientficos; Artculos de divulgacin; Menu More recently, in 2011, a mountain lion roamed Connecticut before being hit and killed by a car. For all the men out there that don't realize it. So one thing I'd point out is we've been talking about situations with no evidence a number of them come in with photographs and yet what they fit what they description of the animal they saw and by the way I got a picture of what I saw. Possible Mountain Lion Sighting in New Hampshire CONCORD, N.H. -- The New Hampshire Fish and Game Department today reported that one of its staff members, following up on a routine report of a mountain lion sighting, saw what is believed to be a mountain lion in a rural area of Barnstead, N.H. Really appreciate you guys being here as well. I didn't see him online. And there's there's no evidence of that cat's movement in that entire you know 12 hundred miles stretch of its journey. So before we get to the the the the stories of sightings we're getting a lot of calls. There's these animals aren't coming with a map saying oh I want to go here. I just saw the head and the tail that was leaving. So give us a call now. Today on the exchange we discuss what residents may have been seeing and what breeding mountain lion pairs would mean for our ecosystem. Rick van de Poll: Rick your thoughts. They absolutely do. Does not test random Scouts. I wanted to get your thoughts on the mystique of the mountain lion start with you Rick. Patrick Tate: Well I've never seen an Easter cougar so I can't say when I've handled these 10 cougars and whatnot. So for me as a person who's had the Bobcats right off my grits similar carries sticks to a bobcat The Long Tail obviously very different but those facial markings were overlapping for me. The last wild mountain lion in New Hampshire may have been killed in the White Mountains in 1885. brings a lot of. And maybe it's a no holds barred nostalgia for a better world a wild or Fuller world not a world that's constrained by our boundaries and our taxes and our highways. It was killed in Lee New Hampshire in 1853. You don't know what's going on. But my experience was that the majority of these accounts could not be taken lightly. A middle school in Manchester, New Hampshire has sent out an alert after a mountain lion was spotted. Sam Evans Brown. And you know it's rather interesting because certainly there are those you as a case of mistaken identity or they wanted to see something that perhaps they actually didn't. There is some information that suggests that it spent a portion of its time in Massachusetts near the Claiborne reservoir. We actually have the largest subspecies of bobcat in the northern part of our state which they can get up to 40 and over 40 pounds which looks like an 80 pound the animal to visually and quite large. Kyle I think about Rick Tate wants to jump in here. State officials confirmed the presence of a mountain lion near the Quabbin Reservoir in the late 1990s. And it was you know 10 or 12 people saw it all at once. Now Bobcat is a completely different species. And those and that's how you can go from a story that Pat says I have nothing to say about that to a story that you know could be the first verified sighting in over 100 years. For evidence of a free-roaming, wild and native mountain lion, we must look back to 1874. Sam what's the incentive for the government to deny allegedly. Or years or so. Patrick Tate: So I'm not sure what subspecies of cat they're using to differentiate by those markings but once she was describing the White other face in the black. If you go on YouTube and search mount lion Pat you can see people patent their hundred pound kiddie like its regular mascot cat. So so they're just a very resilient species and they're pretty they're pretty neat. Absolutely there are a lot of folks out there who for some reason need to create something that raises a stir and gets the attention of the media etc.. Sort of dropped onto the SD card of a camera he'd set up out in the wild. Don't miss your chance to win three two thousand dollar gas gift cards at any station of your choice not to mention the grand prize twenty five thousand dollars toward a new car. Patrick Tate: And there's one other way to model that is the same animal. It is also known as cougar, panther, mountain lion, and puma, though catamount is the preferred regional vernacular. And listeners this has been a lively conversation we're sorry we didn't get to all the the e-mailed comments and the phone calls your stories are appreciated even if we didn't get a chance to hear them today. This is a machine-generated transcript, and may contain errors. Were there any differences between these two that we could have noticed right off. And I think this is a really interesting story for a couple of reasons one is that it proves what Pat was saying which that basically from New York state where its traces was really picked up on a game camera around Lake George all the way down to Connecticut there was numerous. As far as I could tell there was a positive DNA sequence coming from the scat sample Patrick. They are the same thing. "There is a very low possibility of seeing them in the. Rick van de Poll: Well education is the real important thrust of of what all of us do as biologists and Game Managers and to make sure that a things like what Sam was saying that in spite of what you believe the mountain lions will not eat your children they will not steal your pets from your backyard and they will not necessarily be seen by you unless you're extremely lucky. When you talk about a bobcat Bobcat maybe 80 90 pounds and then a mountain lion could be between 130 and 180 pounds. The last known mountain lion killed in New Hampshire is displayed at the Woodman Museum in Dover. Patrick Tate: Nice talk to you too. I looked at the picture and asked me what do you see in the picture and I wrote back. I've had a number of people call up and say I found a scout in the woods and I want it DNA identified. How far were you from this cat. We'll be right back. So it's six months of a large large predatory animal that moves great distances on the landscape that is not known if it went northeast west Salt and how many circles it did. Let us know your story and share your photos! If so that's for us as an agency. And sometimes I've seen pictures of those where it's the question is What is that is that a bobcat. Well let's talk a little bit about that. Peter Biello: And then it ran away okay. Caller: Yeah I hadn't experienced blastoff fall so this was around September and I was driving from Webster into Concord on Horse Hill Road and anybody in the area would know I was right near the Red Barn and all of a sudden this animal jumps out of the woods and it bounded across the road in about two two giant leaps and stopped in the field just on the other side. Sam Evans-Brown: One in fact Helena silver in that sort of tome that Rick van de Poll read from at the beginning is she. So the U.S. Forest Service Rocky Mountain Research Station has a database on mountain lion and they can identify. The last wild mountain lion in New Hampshire may have been killed in the White Mountains in 1885. So I hate the idea that there's some sort of upward you know downward pressure from the bosses saying Don't you know don't tell about the mountain lions because it'll scare away the tourists. I saw a mountain lion on my property in NE corner of Dutchess County about 6 years ago -- the cat (or a cat) had been spotted many times over the years and was believed to have been introduced and escaped from a nearby Hunting Preserve. There was a lot of DNA evidence. Id like to hazard the explanation that we really, really want to see a mountain lion. We mentioned that one cat that was hit by a car where it has it that it was a male looking for me. Do we have native species that could have exhibited this type of behavior leaving leaving a deer carcass up in a tree. We'll hear from her periodically through the show. But also I think it proves the opposite point which is that sometimes they're pretty secretive because all the way from Minnesota where the where was the first time was picked up on a game camera to New York. You know perhaps poke around where you saw it and see if you can find a track. They were able to do all that by genetics. Yeah 13 to 15 years ago 13 to 15 years ago. I'm Peter Biello. State officials have said, over and over in recent years, that the eastern mountain lion has been completely wiped out from the Northeast. 50 feet above the most. Have a photo. Mountain Lions in New Hampshire-Fact or Fiction. That's why we always go back to the physical evidence to support what they're reporting. No that's a little bit outside the range. I hope she's listening and she had spoke to a lot of different people ended up having a couple of sightings of her alone without sort of by accident. And that's this morning at 10:00 here on NH PR. I saw the tail end of a literally from behind the shoulder The Long Tail mountain lion crossing the highway going from Password to often Village downtown. This animal, IMHO, was probably live caught as an adult from the wild and brought to the . Tonight, Sean McDonald . More than 450 Facebook users as of Thursday had shared a photo Marc Weir posted Wednesday showing the big cat and . Peter Biello: We mentioned that the eastern cougar and the Western cougar are they were separate eastern cougar believed to be extinct. I just want to tell you a story that I read. I mean no doubt a seen Bobcat seen his stuff. When they were landing or taking off and it seems like it's been there for like. So Pat you field a lot of calls about people seeing or reportedly seeing mountain lions. People go through great lengths to create hoaxes like this. So hey, just me shooting from the hip, maybe there are a couple mountain lions skulking about. Peter Biello: This is NHK PR Good morning and HP are summer car raffle is back and now's the time to get your early bird tickets. And they asked me about the tail which I just did not remember that tail out of that whole experience. However if if and when it does happen it takes up a lot of resources looking at that situation and identifying what's going on because when you start out you don't know it's a hoax. Rick van de Poll: Yes. Are there other powers that be worried that scary mountain lions will scare off people from camping in New Hampshire. Just one quick point I think I think when we we talk about these conspiracy theories the real story is that fish and game is an agency that that is short on budget and staff. The big cat has been extinct at least the eastern mountain lion has been extinct here since the mid 80s hundreds. New Hampshire Public Radio | The American Lion The Saber tooth Tiger and this was the one that survived. The western mountain lion lives in a more of a grassland open area now so to blend in with a very lighted situation here in the Northeast we are very shadowy dark situation because of the forest and our cats wear a darker brownish reddish color than what they were and they were also smaller than what the western mountain lion is. What gets confusing is when you have a large adult animal and a smaller juvenile animal of a different species you can now step start beginning talking about overlapping body weights and sizes. So what those ranges. Caller: I have yeah. Can we go to the site. Peter Biello: Today on the program Patrick Tate New Hampshire Fish and Game Wildlife biologist and far better project leader Sam Evans Brown host of an HP podcast outside in which is about the natural world and how we use it. Right. Peter Biello: So let's say Rick that it was confirmed that there that there are mountain lines here in New Hampshire. By Eric Orff. The cougar is also commonly known as mountain lion, puma, mountain cat, catamount, or panther. This is a list of known or suspected fatal cougar attacks that occurred in North America by decade in chronological order. Peter Biello: There have been several alleged sightings of mountain lions in New Hampshire recently. My YouTube Channel NH Fish and Game YouTube Channel My Facebook Page My Weekly Live Stream on the NH Wildlife Federation FB Page Home About Eric 2022 NH Nature Notes NH Wildlife NH Wildlife Deer Deer in NH Long before NASA was asked to put a man on the moon one engineer had already figured out how to get there. Ecosystem Management Consultants of New England, Ask Sam, and recently fielded question about mountain lions, In latest school funding trial, state attorneys argue NH districts' budgets are bloated, Lawmakers, advocates, families in NH react to Biden Admin's proposed Title IX change, Give Back NH: The New England Grassroots Environment Fund, NHs housing crisis is pushing more older adults to seek help, We also hear excerpts from an interview with, Read about the most recent cougar "sightings". Pat ruse and he was sampling doing DNA samples from cats in the Upper Peninsula of Michigan. Early in the morning. 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